June 4, 2007
Coach Mitch's Tax Delinquent Real Estate "Ridiculously Simple System…" - Step 2 Post 30
Step 2 Get your databases of real estate at risk.
Now that you have chosen the geographic areas in which you wish to invest, the next step is to locate and acquire the databases of the real estate that is at risk, namely those properties where the owner is in danger of losing the property.
There are several of these databases available. You have heard of many of them. Every real estate investing guru says that you should be talking to “motivated sellers”. They will all give you a list of the types of the sellers that you should be looking for.
Some of the typical situations are: couples getting a divorce, landlords who are in over their head with management problems, someone moving or losing a job, someone who has two mortgages and can not afford both, foreclosures, etc.
All of these situations are real, they happen everyday, but where are you going to get a ready made database of any of these categories of motivated investors. A ready made database is defined as a database that you can order and have it mailed to you on a disc or downloaded to you in a file format that you can manipulate.
With the possible exception of the divorce and foreclosure categories, all other motivated seller categories are not databased. You must spend big money to advertise and hope that some of these motivated sellers will see your marketing and contact you.
This has never been my style. I want control. I do not care to let my financial future rest upon someone being aware enough to see an ad. I do not like the idea that someone in a stressful situation might have the presence of mind to believe that a stranger can help them. Worst, I hate the idea that they might condescend to call me on a whim.
I would much rather be in control of the marketing situation. Therefore, I concentrate on tax delinquent real estate and not on any other category. A main reason is that the databases of properties that are tax delinquent are readily available and from every county in the USA.
There are 3332 counties in the US, not including the possessions, which have the same taxing laws as the US. So, if you wanted to invest in real estate in Western Samoa, or the Virgin Islands, you could do so with the backing of a US style legal system.
Every county has a set of officials that is in charge of collecting taxes. They rule over an entire bureaucracy which helps them. The first thing they do is to collect the data as to which properties have paid taxes and which have not paid its taxes. I say properties, because it is the property that will eventually be used to pay the outstanding taxes. The owner may owe the taxes, but it is the property that is the collateral, in case the owner cannot pay the taxes.
The data that is collected is very complete. The Tax Collector has a record of all the monies that the properties owe, how much has been paid, the owner contact data as well as the tax lien certificate data, if it is a TLC state. If a tax foreclosure is in process, then property inspection files are maintained plus much more.
The Tax Assessor, who is now often called the Property Appraiser, has enormous amounts of data regarding the property, from lot size to property type to information regarding any structures. Foreclosure investors wish that their lists could be as complete.
All you need do is ask for the databases, pay the proper fee, and wait paitently for the information.
The size of the database will astound you. In most counties with a decent population, the tax delinquent real estate database consists of thousands and thousands of properties. The number will be between 10,000 and 60,000 properties. Is that enough leads for you?
Good luck,
Mitchell Goldstein – Coach Mitch
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Comments on Coach Mitch's Tax Delinquent Real Estate "Ridiculously Simple System…" - Step 2 Post 30 »
How do I get a database of tax forfeiture properties in Cynthiana,KY? I was told those lists are not made available through the mail. I have to check the local newspaper or the list that is posted at the county courthouse.
Donna,
It is great that you are taking action and moving forward. I also applaud that you are not stopping when hitting a bump, but rather, you are seeking ways to achieve your goal.
Cynthiana is a town within Harris County, KY. Often towns do not have the resources to separate the data, although, since the municipality typically sends their delinquents to the county, they must have a way to keep track of the data.
You should go to the Harris County tax collector and get the tax delinquent lists for that county. You can also ask for a list of holders of tax lien certificates. This will get you the same information as all tax delinquents owe on the TLC's attached to their property.
There are several ways to attain the list after the initial rejection.
1) Typically, the state will have a law regarding public information. The laws do not restrict the manner in which the data is distributed to the public, and there are few restrictions on what data can be distributed. Finding the laws in KY re public information will be important. Google for it. Read the law, understand it and call the tax collector again. There are penalties if they break the law.
2) If government restricts access to public information, then they must have a good reason. You can contact the county attorney and ask that the policy be reviewed. Be knowledgable of the law.
3) You can also ask an attorney if there is a law in KY that allows a citizen to take a public official to court for not performing the law. In NYS there is Article 78. See if KY has a similar law.
4) I have also had success by going to the computer department directly. The operators / programmers do not always know all the policies and they will often work with you.
5) You can go to the newspaper of record and look up last year's TLC publication. Chances are that a high percentage of those delinquents are still delinquent. You can manually look up the individual tax records at the Cynthiana Receiver of Taxes.
6) The easiest way to obtain a list is to go to towns and counties who do not restrict the information.
There are several other strategies that can be used in Kentucky.
Give me a call and I will help.
Good luck,
Mitchell